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Should a touch lamp be able to work if plugged into the switched outlet on a lamplinc? I installed a
new lamplinc yesterday and plugged a "touch lamp" into it. You can turn the lamp on and off just by
touching it. Anyway, it was continually being left on, so I wanted to be able to control it and make
sure it turns off at night, etc. Well, I plugged it in and it won't work. I sent it the "On"
command from PH, but I couldn't turn the lamp on by touching it. I was able to control a regular
lamp with it, so it would seem that the lamplinc is working correctly, but when I plug the touch lamp
in, it does not work. And, yes, I tested the touch lamp in a regular socket and it worked there too.
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You could try turning the load sensing in the LampLinc Off but that may not have any positive effect. The LampLinc has a trickle current flow to detect the state of the load regardless of whether load sensing is reacting to the load state. The Touch circuitry is dependent on 120V to detect the touch. Two different circuits are working against each other.
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You can also try an ApplianceLinc which has a relay controlling the load rather than electronics to control dimming. May not make any difference since the ApplianceLinc also has a load sensing circuit that allows a trickle current flow around the relay contacts to detect load state.
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How do you turn the load sensing off in the LampLinc?
I would have thought that if the LampLinc is "full on", that it would just provide a
happy 120 to whatever is plugged in. It shouldn't care if that device was turned on
or off locally. It would appear that even when the LampLinc is full on, the current
being supplied is a little funny--just funny enough to screw with the touch lamp.
I do have some AplianceLincs, so I will give that a shot tonight. In hindsight, that
probably would have been a smarter choice all along.
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The following link should get you there. If not go to the sales page for the LampLinc and click on the link to the online Owners Manual.
LampLinc Load Sensing
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That didn't help. I don't think those instructions really
applied to the current LampLincs--first, the light is
white, not green. Second, I have never heard a LampLinc
beep. I also tried the instructions here:
http://wiki.smarthome.com/index.php?
title=2456D_Manual#Enabling_.2F_Disabling_Load_Sensing_on_L
ampLinc
And still no joy. I guess even when a module is on, it's
doing something to that 120 that touch lamps just don't
like.
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Well I am a total noooob. In fact this is my fist post on anything ever. And I ain't no electronical genius. However, i bet there is something inside the touchlamp itsef that is stopping it from turnning on when you send it the juice. Touch lamp cirit says 'once im off, stay off unless i get touched the right way' just giving it the 120v is not enough. I bet you will have to tear into the lamp circutry to solve this problem. Then maybe you could solve it with a x-10 universal receiver PUM01 if u are running X10 at all. I dunno what the lamplinc equavelant is. Any of that make sense?... ohh & can anyone explain to me how to write an 'if' statement. this programming stuff is hard!!!!
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The if statements are a lot like Excel if statements. It can return just about any
data type--it just depends on what you tell it to return. For instance, let's say you
want to go to a certain label in your script. You could just put a line in your macro
and choose the "Go To Label" drop down and in the "Formula" field, just put "MyLabel".
Then if you had a Label in your macro called "MyLabel", execution of the macro would
skip to the line with that label. So note that the Go To Label command takes a string
value. Now, if you needed execution of your macro to go to one of two places,
depending on the value of a temporary variable, you would still choose "Go To Label",
but this time in the formula field, we will put an IF statement. Something like
if(ph_getvar_s(2,1)="SomeValue","LabelOne","LabelTwo")
In this case we are comparing TEMP1 to "SomeValue". If this is true, return what is
after the first comma. If it is false, return what is after the second comma. So, if
it was true, the formula would return the string "LabelOne", and the execution would
skip to the line with the label "LabelOne".
I wrote all of this from memory, so if I made a mistake up there, I do apologize.
As for my touch lamp not working with the LampLinc, I was not ever able to get it to
work. I probably should have bought one of the non-dimming, switched types. I wasn't
trying to turn the lamp on with the LampLinc. In fact, the only thing I wanted to be
able to do is turn the lamp off. Turning the lamp off implies that it was turned on
at some point. But when the LampLinc is in the "On" condition, it was impossible to
turn the lamp on by touching it. Bottom line was, if the lamp was plugged into the
LampLinc, the lamp would not work at all.
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Skip, try plugging an extension cord into the LampLink then plug-in a lamp that works plus the Touch lamp. Turn them on with PH then try the Touch lamp. Curious what happens.
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thank you so much for help with my problem on your page! I really just needed someone to lay it out like you did. A lot of the posts I find are just wayyyy beyond what I am capable of right now. Still hope you solve your problem. Now that I understand it a little better. Hope the extention cord works. Seems like you would have to use a relay type circut, not that fancy dimmable type.
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