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alavizad
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I have recently installed PH and am a quite new to this. I have a simple task but couldn't find much info in the documentation. I have a motion sensor, an accesspoint and a switchlinc controlling outside lights. The sensor is linked and works fine by itself. The sensor is also linked to USB controller so I can see motion events in Insteon Explorer. I'd like to set it up so that the outside lights are turned on only between sunset and sunrise. How do I set this condition?
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There is an option in the motion sensor to operate only between sunset and sunrise. How to set that should be in the Smarthome motion sensor manual. Since you have directly linked the motion sensor to the switchlinc, Powerhome does not control the ON/OFF command flow coming from the motion sensor to the switchlinc. For Powerhome to do this you would have to remove the direct link from the motion sensor to the switchlinc. Create a Powerhome trigger that fires from the ON/OFF commands from the motion sensor and only pass on those commands to the switchlinc between sunset and sunrise.
EDIT: the quick start guide describes Jumper 3 which controls night only operation.
EDIT2: if you are looking for examples of a Powerhome solution, use the Search facility and search for terms such a DUSK, DAWN, SUNRISE, SUNSET. These are system variables containing the respective values that can be used in conditional statement, such as if.
Edited by grif091 - June 08 2009 at 19:14
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Thanks for your response. I guess I am still stuck at detecting motion. I removed the direct links between the motion sensor and switchlinc. Now motion only causes this command:
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=01 11 9F BF 11 08 77 41 11 FF
which is followed a minute later by
PLC:receiveinsteonraw=01 11 9F BF 11 08 77 41 13 FF
I don't know how to set a trigger to detect this and send an on command to a switchlin. What specific settings should I use? If this requires creating a macro, what would be the settings for that?
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What are the devices
11.9F.BF
11.08.77
The commands are an On followed by an Off but the Group number of FF is not expected. Also do not see a Group Broadcast which I would expect from the Insteon PIR Motion Sensor. The PLC does not always trace everything on the powerline but in this case it may be that the motion sensor is not linked to the PLC as a responder. Will be able to tell more once the devices are identified for the two Insteon addresses in the commands.
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11.9F.BF is the motion sensor
11.08.77 is the PLC
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I cannot explain the command you are seeing from the motion sensor. The messages are a Group Cleanup Direct for Group 255 (0xFF), first ON then OFF. From what I have read about the motion sensor it uses Group 1 for motion, Group 2 for dusk/dawn, Group 3 for low battery.
To trigger on these commands
Trigger Type - Insteon Device Chg
Trigger ID number - (any)
Trigger Value - ON - to trigger with ON command
Trigger Value - OFF - to trigger with OFF command
Is the motion sensor being triggered by normal motion?
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More thoughts on the commands the PLC is passing to Powerhome. Are you sure there is a link from the Motion Sensor as a Controller to the PLC as a Responder for Group 1, motion sense? If this exists then you might try loading the PLC with the Add Full option rather than the default Add Min option. I've been using a PLM with Powerhome long enough not remember if there were any odd things about getting a Group Broadcast, Group Cleanup Direct, with the correct Group number when using a PLC. I just don't think the Motion Sensor is actually issuing a Group 255 for normal motion sense. If you double click on the blue T shaped Icon in the system tray (SDM3 Icon) it will open up the SDM3 trace window. Do you see the same command in the SDM3 trace window as you see in the PH raw log for a motion sense.
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I did a reset on the motion sensor and re-linked to PLC. The Group number changed to 01. Using your trigger settings, motion is now detected and I can control devices using PH.
Thanks for your help Lee.
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