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MrGibbage
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I thought I remembered reading here one time about someone who set up some Insteon links between some switchlincs that were what I would call "one way". In other words, the remote switch could turn off a given local light, but not turn it on. Let me explain: In my bathroom, I have a separate "potty room". When I enter the bathroom and turn the light on, I don't really want the potty room light to come on every time. But if I go in the potty room and forget to turn the light off on the way out, I'd like to be able to hit the bathroom switch to turn the bathroom lights and the potty room lights off. Is there a way to do this with straight Insteon? I think not. But I was thinking there could be a way to do it with PH by reprogramming the remote switch whenever the potty room light is turned on or turned off. I don't know exactly how I would do this, or what the macro commands would be, or if the response time and overall usability and WAF would be acceptable. Any ideas/suggestions?
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I think the only way you can do that with straight insteon would be setting up a KPL button in non-toggle mode, so it would always send either off or on. Otherwise -- I think you can do exactly that -- set up a trigger in PH pretty painlessly to do what you want!
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Having not tried it myself, I was wondering if anyone had (use PH to reprogram a switchlinc on the fly). How responsive was it? Did it work as you thought it would? I am a little concerned because when I use the Insteon explorer to program some links into a switchlinc, it takes several seconds to do the programming. I don't know if the programming goes a lot faster when using the PH macro commands. It would be really cool if someone could post how they did it, including some of the macro commands that were used.
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bhlonewolf
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No, I don't think reprogramming the links on the fly would be acceptable -- I think your best bet would be to use macros or triggers.
Basically, I have a similar setup in my master bath: 2 "main" lights/fan, (as you say) potty room light/fan, and shower light/fan. I have it set up so a "fast on" (double click) on the first switch turns all on, and a fast off turns them all off. You could do something similar, just setup a trigger on the off or fast off of the first switch. When off is detected, just send an off cmd to the "potty" switch :)
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I hadn't thought of that. That sounds like a good idea. I think I will program that in tonight. Thanks for the idea.
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It works, but I'm not really happy with the speed the lights come on and off in the potty room. After I double-tap the bathroom light, it takes over one second for the first light to come on in the potty room, and the another second for the shower light to come on. I was really hoping for a more instantaneous response. All I did was set up a trigger to detect the fast on/off, and have it run a two-line macro that turns on each light. I know I could put the two light in a PLC group and save a second that way, but what about the first one-second delay?
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You're right, the best you could do (I would think) would be to remove the second delay by using a group.
Failing that, you only have 2 options (AFAIK) --
a) Make the the first switch control all the lights. So an on just turns on all the lights, and off does the same. You could still control the other lights individually.
b) Use a Keypadlinc and setup different scenes.
I notice the delay too -- when turning off I don't care, as I'm walking out anyway. When I walk in, the delay is noticeable but not too bad, as it takes a few seconds to even walk over to the room.
Still, immediate would be nice. Perhaps I'll install a KPL -- some day :)
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I have a feeling the delay is the macro queue. In your trigger, can you fire a formula directly instead of having it call a macro which would then be queued?
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