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Ken524
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Hello experts,
We're in the middle of a swimming pool installation and I'd like to be able to control the 220v pump with Insteon and PowerHome.
I know X10 has some 220v products, but I *really* want to stick with Insteon. Is there a clever way to use a standard Insteon switch to control a 220v device? I'm thinking: a ToggleLinc controlling some sort of relay thingie that in turn operates the pump.
Has anyone done this?
Thanks,
Ken
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You could use an Insteon relay module to control a 220VAC relay (with a 120VAC coil) with an appropriate current rating.
You could also use one of the new Insteon modules from simplehomenet.com to control a 24VAC-coil relay with 220VAC contacts.
Yet another option is to use an Insteon relay module to power a wall wart that drives a 220VAC-contact relay with a DC coil.
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If you want something really cool, go Solid State instead of coil relays. Lifetime warranty on them. I rewired my dust collector with an InlineLinc and an 240A45 240 VAC, 45 Amp, AC Control Solid State Relay (SSR) from Opto 22. I wired it so that the main switch can still be used to cut power to the motor, but if that is on, the relays control the dust collector.
They also make a 25 Amp part (240A25), but just remember to account for the spike that occurs when a motor starts.
Another advantage of this kind of device is that it powers on the load at the zero crossing. The result is I don't see the lights blink like I used to when I'd press the button on that 2.5 HP motor.
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Great tip. More money, but better! Also look at Crydom, Crouzet, and Continental Industries.
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Ken524
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Excellent ideas! Thanks guys. I was able to find the Opto22 relays (I like the lifetime warranty), but I can't seem to locate the 220VAC Insteon relays that TonyNo mentioned.
Thanks again for the great help!
Ken
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Tony was saying to front end a 240V Coil Relay (or SSR) with a 120V Insteon SwitchLinc Relay (or InlineLinc Relay or even an ApplianceLinc).
The key is that so far, there are no Insteon 240V relays. There are 120VAC solutions from SmartLabs (SmartHome) and lower voltage solutions from Simplehomenet (resold by SmartHome)
Now that I've created my own solution, I'm quite happy with it. I'm confident that the load switching part of it will last a long time. I've had coil relays fail because the contacts become more resistive from wear or I've also seen them weld closed (I had a well pump do that, it's scarey looking at the pressure guage and seeing a reading of 150 PSI on a 100 PSI tank).
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