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RWCS
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Got a user on my entertainment system who has no patience. I'm very frustrated looking for a solution to this problem.
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PH has Keyboard Keys to turn volume up and down. Volume control is accomplishd via a Macro sending commands to a RetRat (serial port device). The Keyboard "repeat" is much faster than the system through put, so the volume control appears to have alot of inertia.
I have asked this user (my wife of 30 years) to hit the keys one at a time, and she will deny holding the key down while she is holding the key down. You would be amazed how many key strokes a windows keyboard buffer will hold. Minutes after the last key is hit the volume will still be changing. Short of cutting her finger off, does anybody have an idea?
Bob
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Turn off keyboard repeat?
Go to Control Panel - Accessibility Options. On the Keyboard tab, select the FilterKeys Settings button and enable the "Use shortcut" option. Enable the "Ignore repeated keystrokes" option. Select the OK button, then the Apply button.
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Thanks Tony. . . I think you saved our marriage!
Bob
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Heh! N/P!
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OK, the euphoria has passed. . . Now I'm really, really confused. Turning "Filter Keys" on kills "On Hand".
On-Hand is a utility used in the entertainment system control. Since PH is not always the selected window, or maybe minimized, I use the Function keys on the keyboard (via On-Hand) to call PHcommand.exe with arguments for macros that will maximize PH and select the correct page on PH etc.
My guess is On-Hand uses the filter keys feature of windows, and therefore breaks if you turn on the feature in windows.
The real irony is that On-Hand won't intercept the +/- keys we use for volume. . . Sooo I'm still in trouble!
Bob
Edited by RWCS - June 11 2006 at 11:03
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Bob,
I did a Google on "on-hand" but could not really tell what program you were using. However, if you're just assigning a "hotkey" to call the phcommand function with parameters, you should be able to just create a shortcut on your desktop and then assign a "shortcut key". Just right-click on a shortcut on your desktop and select "properties" and you'll see the "Shortcut Key" field. It may allow you to use this instead of "on-hand" and it may be filterkeys compatible.
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On Hand is a freeware utility (about screen says http://duke.cyberpunk.ru) I'm using rev1 2001. This could be something that needs to change, but first I have a few questions to ask.
Problem statement:
In my system the computer monitor is the TV, it is possible that PH could be minimized so that you could play MP3s or a game, or browse the net, or view digital photos, etc. . . PC is a function key, just like DVD, or TV, or VCR. Given the level of my users the fewer rules I have the better.
Does PH have keys that respond even if PH is minimized? If so who needs On-Hand, if not maybe I need to look for another utility. Another solution could be to use a key On-Hand will intercept and make that one of those "always" things on the keyboard, but this seems to be an even slower thing which could be a problem.
Still scratching my head. . .
Bob
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Maybe I should read the posts before replying. . . does the shortcut have to be on the desktop? Can it be somewhere else? I'm thinking I have something to play with today.
Thanks
Bob
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Bob,
Im not sure if it has to be on the desktop or not. When I tried it yesterday, that's just what I had done.
Let me know how your testing goes.
Dave.
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My test shows that the shortcut needs to be on the desktop, but I could be wrong.
There might be another option just short of turning repeat off completely. I'm on a WinXP box and did the following...
Start / Control Panel / Switch to Classic View / Keyboard
There is a Repeat Delay which I set to Long. Then, the Repeat Rate which I set as Slow.
The repeat rate slows down to 1 every 1/2 (or 3/4) of a second. This might be slow enough for the IR to keep up. At the very least, it will prevent 30 volume change requests every 5 seconds.
Hope this helps
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Great suggestions, Thanks. . . Does anybody know why F11 doesn't (won't) work? (Win 2K)?
Bob
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Bob,
In what context is F11 not working? From within PowerHome or as a shortcut?
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