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Posted: February 09 2011 at 19:23 | IP Logged Quote sifu128

Ok guys, now that the masters here have gotten me fixed and I can see the true power of PH, it is pretty awesome.

Is there a simple way for me to create an event or a link to a KPL Group (lets say number 4 which is button a)?

I haven't found a way to do that.
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Posted: February 09 2011 at 19:30 | IP Logged Quote BeachBum

An event can be triggered by a KPL button associated by Group number. So when a button is pressed it fires a trigger which invokes a macro.

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Posted: February 09 2011 at 19:30 | IP Logged Quote sifu128

No worries. I am excited to have found a software package that actually kicks ass and is well worth buying :)
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I’ve been through a lot of them but PH has no limits to my abilities. I only use about 20% of its capabilities. You can’t beat the price especially with the support.

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Posted: February 09 2011 at 21:29 | IP Logged Quote grif091

Button A (6 button KPL) is Group 3. Linking a KPL button is simple enough. Using the Links tab, select the KPL as the Current Device. Drag the responders to the Responders (of current device) section. Set the Blue Group number to 3 (for button A of 6 button), the D Level (desired Bright level), D Ramp (desired Ramp rate) as required. The Green Button column is normally 0 for things like SwitchLincs, LampLincs etc. If the responder is a KPL the Green Button number is the Group number of the responder KPL button.

Note that the color of the columns is useful. The Blue columns are information that apply to the Current Device. The Green columns represent information in each responder device. Same with the Controllers (of Current Device) frame except the controller information (the device that is controlling the current device) columns are Red (close).

Events are made up of a Trigger and often a Macro. The Trigger is defined to fire on a particular device activity such as receiving an On command from a specific device. The Trigger can execute a formula(s) directly so long as that formula is not controlling an Insteon device. If Insteon device(s) are to be controlled or multiple activities are to be executed the Trigger is defined to invoke a PH Macro where an almost limitless amount of things can be done.

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Posted: February 10 2011 at 07:44 | IP Logged Quote sifu128

Lee this worked like a champ. I have on stupid question. Now that the switch is actually linked to group 3, which is the best way to access it. So if I wanted to turn on group 3 at a certain time would I put something in the timed event like INSTEON+KITCHEN2+ON (group 3 somewhere in there)?

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Posted: February 10 2011 at 08:16 | IP Logged Quote BeachBum

Just create a timed event and fire a macro with ph_insteongroup(“group3-name”,17,0). Or use it as a raw formula .

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Posted: February 10 2011 at 10:51 | IP Logged Quote grif091

If you have linked KPL button A (Group 3) to a set of Responders, that makes KPL button A a Controller. Insteon does not support one Controller (PH PLC) directing another Controller (KPL button A) to turn On/Off its linked Responders.

Another PLC/PLM Group definition is needed. New Group ID with a unique Group number like 10. Link all the devices to the PLC Controller as Responders using Group 10. This includes KPL button 3 as a Responder.

Once created the Group ID can be used in a Macro with the ph_insteongroup(). All the responders that react to the KPL button 3 press now respond to this new Group definition. In addition the KPL button LED will turn On/Off along with the other devices as it is also a Responder in this Group.

Each Insteon Group has 1 Controller and 1 or more Responders. Define as many Groups as needed.

As Pete has already covered, a Timed Event invokes a Macro which issues the ph_insteongroup().

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