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tbeckman
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Dave, in your last post you taught me how to use the generic controller(ELK) pointed to to COMMAND 5 and OPTION 1 to trigger on the alarm status and state. Now, I am trying to make a trigger based upon a door opening which is monitored by the ELK. Do I used the same COMMAND 5 & OPTION 1... and what TEMP value do I look at to find out which contact has been violated. Is there document somewhere that outlines all these TEMP variables and options? Thank you again for your great help.
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Wouldn't you just trigger of the actual analog I/O?
For example, Zone 4 of my Elk system is for the front door.
In the Analog I/O section of PH, I set up an "ID" that is for my Elk Zone #4 (front Door), the "I/O" is set to "Input", the controller is set to what ever you named your Elk controller to be (it should be in the dropdown box), the unit is "1" (main elk board is 1), and the point is "4" (this is the elk zone number).
NOTE: unit 1 has 16 points, then elk expansion board #1 would be called unit 2. Unit 2 has 16 points (and so on). After a quick re-start of PH, you should see real time zone status of your elk. Now you can write triggers using the Ananlog Input status.
Hope this helps get you started.
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I already did the first half of what you mentioned... I setup up the ELk zones in the Analog I/O section. I have been able to see their status realtime. However, when I try to setup the trigger via analog input I didn't get any options to pick from in the TRIGGER ID field. However, I started looking around and found that if I trigger off a Multi-state I find all my zones I setup in the Analog I/O. However, when I choose my zone for the TRIGGER ID the TRIGGER ID NUMBER greys out and I am left with TRIGGER VALUE options of "changed" and 1-16. Would you happend to know what value I should put in the VALUE field that will denote the door status as open? Thank you for your help. It is nice to see another ELK user.
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Hang on, I have seen this before
Hmmm...
dhoward wrote:
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A 4 state input is just Elk's standard "digital" input. I think of a digital input as only having 2 states...off and on. This is like what an Ocelot or a K8000 uses. ELK however has the ability to configure it's inputs as either analog or what I call a 4 state input (it actually has 16 states...but that's another story). These inputs are referred to by Elk as "zones". It may help to look through their RS-232 protocol manual. Don't dwell on the protocol or the details, just skim the messages that are available and the values that they return. This is ultimately what PowerHome is based upon.
In the case of the 4 state input (ELK zone). It has 4 logical states (Open, Short, EOL, and Unconfigured) and 4 physical states (Normal, Trouble, Violated, and Bypassed).
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From Dave's message above 4 logical * 4 physicall states is 16. In looking over the Elk RS-232 information, I would ASSUME that they would be just as listed in the Elk documentation.
0=Norma Unconfigured
1=Normal OPen
2=Normal eol
3=Normal Short
4=not used
5=trouble open
6=trouble eol
7=trouble short
8=not used
9=violated eol
10=Violated open
11=Violated short
12=Soft Bypassed
13=bypassed open
14=bypassped eol
15=bypassed short
Since Dave starts at 1 and these start at 0, just add a one to these and try whatever number best fits your circumstance.
Let us know if this works....
Steve
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Update....
Just look at your event log screen after you open and close the door a couple of times. You will see how the zone changed states (when youe open and closed the door)and what numbers (1-16) to use (what corresponds to open and closed). The answer above appears to be correct.
Steve
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Smarty, you have been so helpful. Being able to integrate my ELK with Powerhome has opened up a whole new realm of things to do. It looks like it uses a 3 when closed and a 9 when open. Thank you for your help.
Edited by tbeckman - September 30 2008 at 17:45
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