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CharlieP
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I'm just getting started with PowerHome, so excuse me if these are dumb questions. I've been reading the message board alot, but so far I still get confused often.
I'm using version 1.03.4.10 and I have a number of links which are listed as "LINK NOT FOUND" in the "Ctlr Link Status" column. Surprisingly these devices appear to work properly. My assumption for this is that the responders know they are part of the group and respond as expected, but since the controller doesn't know they are part of the group, cleanup messages won't be sent and they may have a lower level of reliability than a link without the "LINK NOT FOUND". Do I have it right so far?
So I figure I should fix these things. I tried a reverify just to be sure it's not some sort of phantom, then I clicked on another device and clicked back just to make sure it had not changed (it hadn't). Then I tried re-creating the broken link. I selected the controller in the right pane and clicked the left-pointing arrow next to the responders pane. Then I copied all the fields from the broken entry and clicked "Save". My new link I was trying to create then disappeared. What am I doing wrong?
Also, while I'm here, I've read about the KPL link order creation bug and I think I've been bitten by it in the past. How do I set link creation order? I see a blue text link marked "Sort" but it doesn't seem to do anything (perhaps it turned off a light somewhere in China).
Thanks for all of your help.
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dhoward
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Charlie,
Welcome to PowerHome!!
Concerning the "LINK NOT FOUND"...you've got it exactly right. The controller doesnt have the link, but the responder does so the link still works. But, as you've correctly guessed, there won't be any group cleanup commands and you could potentially have less reliable communications. I say potentially since group cleanups are only sent if no other Insteon traffic is present. If you have alot of constant Insteon traffic, then it probably doesnt matter. But, like you, I would still like to have them fixed.
The easiest way to fix this is to highlight the controller device whose links are not found in the "Devices" window of the "Links" tab of the Insteon Explorer (the middle window). With the controller in question highlighted, click on the "Rebuild" text. This will completely refresh the devices links including adding the ones that don't currently exist and defragmenting the links. It also gives you the opportunity to make use of the "Sort" option for the KPL link creation order bug.
To set Link creation order, just fill in the "Resp Sort" and "Ctlr Sort" columns in the "Controllers" and "Responders" windows respectively. This column is an alphabetical search so you can place text or numerics in this column. Lower sorted links will be created first. To keep it simple, you can just enter numbers here if you like, but keep in mind that the sort is alphabetical. So with numbers 1,2,3,10,11,and 12 will actually be created in this order 1,10,11,12,2,3. To fix this, enter the values like this: 01,02,03,10,11,12 and all will be sorted as you expect.
The problem you're having with the links disappearing when you create them is most likely caused by leaving a required field blank. When you first create a link in either the controllers or responders window, look at the newly added rows. Any blank column with a "red" background requires some sort of attention. Primarily, this will be values needing to be added in the "Group" and "Button" columns. Try this and the disappearing rows should be solved.
Hope this helps and let me know if you have any questions or problems,
Dave.
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CharlieP
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Thank you very much for your reply. You were absolutely right about the "Rebuild" text. That fixed the links right up.
Unfortunately I'm still having trouble with the sort columns and I can't locate any documentation on how to use them to work around the creation order bug. Actually I'm surprised nobody's asked this question already on the message board. I'm not sure if I'm failing to understand the way the columns work or the bug itself.
When I press a button on KPL2 I want several indicator lights on KPL1 to turn on. What happens is that only button 1's indicator light turns on
What I tried is the following (which obviously isn't what I'm supposed to be doing):
I clicked on KPL1 in the devices pane, then in the Controllers pane I set the Resp Sort column like this:
Code:
Controllers:
ID Group ;Button Resp Sort
Entry 1 1 2
Entry 1 2 1
Entry 2 1 2
Entry 2 2 1
Entry 6 1 5
Entry 6 2 1
Entry 6 3 2
Entry 6 7 3
Entry 6 8 4
KPL2 5 & nbsp; 1 6
KPL2 5 & nbsp; 2 1
KPL2 5 & nbsp; 3 2
KPL2 5 & nbsp; 4 3
KPL2 5 & nbsp; 7 4
KPL2 5 & nbsp; 8 5
PLC 1 &n bsp; 5
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I assumed that all that was important was placing the greatest value in the row for button 1 (obviously taking into account alphabetical sorting if string lengths vary).
Now that I've done this, none of the indicator lights respond at all on KPL1 (including ones which worked previously).
Thanks again for all of your help!
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CharlieP
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Also, is there a bug in the message board? The in the above posting I can see "nbsp;" where it doesn't belong and when I look at the source some spaces have been inserted which don't belong and the <BR> tags have an extra space and a slash in them.
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