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theowl
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Some of you have wished that the E-mail plug-in would support POP3. I think I have a plausible solution for this without using OE...which has given me too many issues.
I'll make this quick since I need some sleep. Here's what I've done in the past two hours...
- Downloaded Eudora (http://www.eudora.com/download/)
- Installed it and told it to take the POP3 account I had in OE
- Switched it over to the free version, I don't need the extra bells on the PH machine
- Set Eudora as the default e-mail client
- Uninstalled OE (Located in Add/Remove, Windows tab)
- Restarted
- Tested
Now, prior to this I had the PH e-mail account setup and working in OE. This allowed PH to connect in and check my POP3 account. Now, Eudora is checking the account. Initial tests are showing me that it can check the e-mail and funnel it over to PH just as easy (and faster) as OE.
Oh yeah, my last issue with OE was that it would freeze PH if I attempted to send e-mail and the network went down (for no reason). Tests on network failure with Eudora suggest that it will just beep and display an error within the main program.
One issue: Eudora will open up anytime that PH calls it. I plan to just leave it open so it doesn't need to do all this. One more thing on the taskbar won't kill me.
I'll let you know how it goes in a few days. So far, I'm 
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Great of you to share your test results. Eudora should work well for that reason, if there is an error, network, or password related, it just posts the error and goes on with life until the next time.
My problem when you say it opens everytime, is my poor old server is only a 733Mhz Windows XP Pro machine with only 256 megs of RAM.. it already runs an Apache Web Server, and FTP Server, and streams our MP3 collection to any PC, or Xbox360 in the house, and now I've added PH to it! I would like it to be able to make take action at least within a few seconds, and not hours. 
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I'm trying Thunderbird now...
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Well, it doesn't open Eudora every time, assuming you leave it running after the first opening. I configured Eudora to minimize to the tray so it can say open without annoying me.
I'm running PH on an WinXP box with a 1.7Ghz processor and 256mb RAM.The cooling system on this box runs twin fans for the power supply and one for case cooling. That made it too loud to have on the main floor of the house so PH got an upgrade from my previous box.
Anyway, I hope to be able to post a more complete macro soon. I have it working just fine when I'm running tests, but it fails to fully work when left on it's own. Anyone care to take a stab at simplifying this formula?
/*Disarm Home*/
if(ph_regexdiff1("DISARMED HOME","$",UPPER('{EM-LINE}'),1,1,0,0,0) = "",0,ph_x10setstat(03,"K",02,0,0) + ph_x10setstat(03,"K",01,0,0) + ph_usermessage("Disarmed: {EM-LINE}") + ph_setsystemvar("TEMP10","D"))
FAQ...
{EM-LINE} = Contents of current line in email
K1/K2: Hold the status of the alarm so PH knows if I'm away and can switch to e-mail alerts.
TEMP10: Later, if it =D, email msg is deleted. The delete code caused the formula to error so it had to be put in it's own line. I think that the complex nature of this code (or the fact that the macro contains 8 similar formula lines) is what is causing the failure.
I need a different perspective on this, can't seem to see a simpler way to make this work without multiple labels and goto_label lines.
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Okay, Thunderbird and Eudora do not seem to work. If closed, it opens each one, but that's it. 
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I just tried Thunderbird Portable version, the one that will run off a USB stick. it works fine, installed it set it up, and immediately responded to PH. However, when forcing a network error, it sticks up a error window that you much click "ok" on to clear, and that may cause PH to hang.. or future emails to not respond.
it also didn't load like Eudora, it worked more like OE does in that respect.
I did come across this http://www.marshallsoft.com/email-component-library.htm remembering I know nothing about programming, but wondered if PH could call this??
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I did notice that PH doesn't seem to process stuff from eudora unless I manually run the code. First line of the code was to loadall. I think Eudora might return too fast from the call. I assume OE waits a few seconds and returns the count after that.
Simple fix was to set the first line to wait 10 seconds, then call a loadnew. That seems to work out for me.
Still trying to figure out why some of the regex lines won't fire.
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Just wondering if anyone has done any more exploration on a alternative to OE. No that I have the email plugin working nicely, I have had OE hang several times causing PH to either hang or crash all together. I didn't want to start looking around again if someone else has come up with something.
Brian
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