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bhlonewolf
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Yeah I've been hearing similar things. Granted, it would be nice not to rely on the SDM (it would likely make running it as a service and other tasks easier) however, from a reliability point of view, I'm not so sure it's a better answer.
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dhoward
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PLM support is planned for .13. No dates yet on when this version will be available since Im trying to get support for several controllers and xPL into this version as well.
A ph_reinitialize will restart PowerHome but will not necessarily restart the SDM. However, there is an internal command that will reset the SDM but requires a reinitialize in order to start communicating again. You could this with the following formula:
ph_ctlrcmd1("YOUR_INSTEON_CONTROLLER_ID",1,0,0,"","",0) + ph_reinitialize()
The only way to completely reset the PLC though would be to have it plugged into an appliance module or similar and have a way to cycle power to it. This would most likely require another controller such as an Elk, CM11A, or similar in order for PowerHome to perform a power cycle.
I won't be at EHX in California this year...I will definately be at EHX Spring in Orlando though. Not certain if I will have a booth or not, but will definately be walking the show floor.
Dave.
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UpstateMike
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Will .13 still let us use the PLC if we prefer? I have been doing research on several PLM devices including SimpleHomenet stuff, IPY-26, Homeseer, and the new Insteon touch screen. I'm not sure I want to have anything to do with PLMs any time in the near future.
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Version 5.6 of the PLM is looking a little better but the power output in recent revs has been cut by 50% to keep the thing from overheating. Still not convinced since my PLC does not give me too many problems.
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dhoward
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Mike,
Yes, .13 will allow you to select either the Insteon DM or a new Insteon PLM as the controller type. Nothing will change with the current setup...just a new option for the PLM. Ive been hearing of the PLM problems as well and have had very good luck with the PLC implementation so far. The only thing that I really dislike, is the memory leaks associated with the SDM. It appears that I need to reboot the PowerHome machine every couple of months in order to reclaim the memory.
Dave.
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UpstateMike
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Sounds good. I have not rebooted my machine for 124 days now and have not seen the memory leak issue. (I have restarted PowerHome a few times but no reboot.) I also have VWS and WeatherAloud runnning on that machine and no memory issues (yet?)
Not looking to create new problems by switching to a PLM till the 2K link versions come out and all the bugs are gone.
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This is probably the wrong thread and maybe we should start Memory Leak, but I have had a memory gain of about 2.2M in PH every day with SDM going up and down but on a slow curve upward. PH is constantly going up every day on my system. I don’t do scans and I have no idea what is consuming memory. I was tracking it but stopped.
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UpstateMike wrote:
I have been doing research on several PLM devices including SimpleHomenet stuff, IPY-26, Homeseer, and the new Insteon touch screen. I'm not sure I want to have anything to do with PLMs any time in the near future.
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Version 5.6 of the PLM is looking a little better but the power output in recent revs has been cut by 50% to keep the thing from overheating. Still not convinced since my PLC does not give me too many problems. |
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This is a serious problem and I would suggest anyone having problems needs to lean on SmartHome to come up with a real solution. The SDM hangs on me every day or two. The que just stops and my home automation grinds to a halt. It's not PowerHome's fault, it's a SmartHome PLC/SDM problem.
The problems with the PLC, PLM and SDM are well documented. And, at least in my opinion, it's not acceptable that SmartHome still doesn't have a reliable interface a few years after Insteon came out?
I know SmartHome claims the ISY-26 is 100% reliable with the PLM. But that's not true. There are many people complaining of PLM lockups with the ISY-26 and also of reduced power output with the latest PLM causing weak signal problems.
SmartHome tends to dismiss problems with all the other home automation solutions out there--including their own HouseLinc, PowerHome and Homeseer software. Lately, it seems, they push anyone with complaints towards the ISY-26 but even that still has problems with the PLM.
In my opinion, Insteon won't be taken seriously beyond us diehard DIY guys until at least the devices themselves, including the PC interface devices like the PLC and PLM, are 99% reliable. From what I've seen, they still have quite a ways to go. We should keep reminding them they're not there yet.
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M i B
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Hi Dave,
Just wondering if 2412S PLM support is expected anytime soon with PH?
If not can I use a PLC for adding & maintaining links including linking devices to the PLM to setup real time status, and then just remove the PLC out of the equation ?
In other words can I use a PLC and laptop running PH just for linking all the switches to a PLM running on my HA server then unplug the PLC?
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dhoward
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M i B,
Im working on PLM support within PowerHome now (for the .13 beta). Since Im adding several controllers in this next release, were probably looking at a couple of months before release.
PowerHome can currently create all of the links between devices and at least half of each link between a PLM and a device. I havent had a chance to try it yet to confirm, but I don't believe PowerHome is capable of creating the other half of the link within the PLM itself.
Dave.
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